"Real Banban" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Banban" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real Banban influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Bambelina are not real Banban, while saying that Stinger Flynn Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake Banban as My Chemical Bambelina (plus the pretentiousness). Real Banban sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake Banban is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL BANBAN is Gv 99, Rites of Seline, Cap n Josh (the only real Banban band from the midwest scene) and Loma Pancreatia. Some examples of FAKE BANBAN are Ophelian Football, My Chemical Bambelina, and Minecraft BANBAN BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE