I like it :)
The VN that mostly got me into VNs as a whole and still remains as one of my favourites
It has an incredible story which still hasn’t left my mind after all this time, filled with great characters and many memorable moments. Of course it isn’t perfect, it has many flaws (some which are impossible to ignore), but the amount of positives that it has more than makes up for all of them imo
It has an incredible story which still hasn’t left my mind after all this time, filled with great characters and many memorable moments. Of course it isn’t perfect, it has many flaws (some which are impossible to ignore), but the amount of positives that it has more than makes up for all of them imo
ACTUAL KINO. rudolf ushiromiya saved the series
Nothing short of masterful. I cannot think of a narrative that has put so many emotions into one package as these arcs. It's equal parts absurd, stressful, tense, playful, heartfelt, troubling, etc. yet everything remains genuine, passionate and -cheesy as it sounds- magical. My sincerest thanks and respect to Ryukishi, an utter madman of a writer.
Genuinely one of the most well-written stories I've ever read. You're cheating yourself by not reading this.
my favorite thing
A Visual Novel of true wonder, magic, mystery and love. No other narrative has a comparable density of character, themes and emotion that can be experienced. 'When the Seagulls Cry' is a story powerful enough to open your eyes to the understanding and appreciation of storytelling.
Shocker, I know: Umineko, Chiru/Answer Arcs in particular, is my favorite piece of fiction.
I do not think I can say anything about it that someone below me hasn't said already. It's so important to me and I love absolutely everything about it. That's all, folks!
I do not think I can say anything about it that someone below me hasn't said already. It's so important to me and I love absolutely everything about it. That's all, folks!
Cried like a motherfucker
i prefer not to speak
if i speak i in big trouble
if i speak i in big trouble
Chapter 8 is one of the worst things I've ever read
o melhor de todos os tempos
VNs simply don't get better
If I had to describe what Umineko means to me concisely, it's the story that conveyed to me no matter how hard being happy or finding happiness is, it should always begin with acknowledging the things and people that surround you who could make you happy. From where you can actually feel hopeful about trying to look for happiness.
I've come across many stories that want the world and the people in it to be better people but none that do it as sincerely as Umineko. And in turn it truly does inspire me to try to be better, it all begins with the perspective...without love it cannot be seen I suppose.
Reading this as a lost, depressed and helpless teen made me appreciate how it tackles the struggles of transitioning from a teen to adult that much more. It is certainly my favourite coming of age story in that aspect.
You'd think a story that wants to be so personal would have a laid back narrative but nope, Umineko is as meticulous and full of effort in laying out its story as a story could aspire to be.
If I had to describe what Umineko means to me concisely, it's the story that conveyed to me no matter how hard being happy or finding happiness is, it should always begin with acknowledging the things and people that surround you who could make you happy. From where you can actually feel hopeful about trying to look for happiness.
I've come across many stories that want the world and the people in it to be better people but none that do it as sincerely as Umineko. And in turn it truly does inspire me to try to be better, it all begins with the perspective...without love it cannot be seen I suppose.
Reading this as a lost, depressed and helpless teen made me appreciate how it tackles the struggles of transitioning from a teen to adult that much more. It is certainly my favourite coming of age story in that aspect.
You'd think a story that wants to be so personal would have a laid back narrative but nope, Umineko is as meticulous and full of effort in laying out its story as a story could aspire to be.
It's magic, everything else is irrelevant
if this site was a thing when i was still reading this i would've minimised the game and logged on to give this 5 stars the second that furudo erika was introduced
If you read this without actually solving the mystery beforehand, then you haven't actually read it. Fuck speedreaders.
Kino
Ryukishi07 closes his mystery-fantasy epic, with love and compassion at the center and the forefront. A masterpiece to the end.
this happened to my buddy erika
best thing ever made, no discussion
This game taught me how to think critically. It's a beautiful story and probably the best thing I'll ever read. An honest to god masterpiece. It has its flaws, yes, but they're not really big enough to affect the story.
If you've gone through the entire first half of Umineko, I probably don't have to tell you to read Chiru. If you're on the fence about Umineko in general, its a slow burn but even when it's slow it's still very good and very worth it.
If you've gone through the entire first half of Umineko, I probably don't have to tell you to read Chiru. If you're on the fence about Umineko in general, its a slow burn but even when it's slow it's still very good and very worth it.
Dios07 haceme un hijo
This review contains spoilers
This is going straight into my top 5 VNs. If I had to pick out a single phrase of the novel that described perfectly my feelings and that will probably reshape the way I see life, it's this one said (I'm gonna write it more or less as I remember it) by Battler in EP6: "People are so fragile that they can't bring themselves to commit to love if they don't get an absolute confirmation".
Without love, it cannot be seen. Without conviction in your beliefs, you're bound to be dragged by the others. That's what it all comes down to. The novel explores deconstructs the very definition of "truth" in a very aristotelic fashion, that truth is just a social construction that requires someone to state it and more people to aknowledge it, independently of if it's an actual fact or not. So long as you believe something to be real just because it's the generally accepted truth, you'll never reach your own satisfying answer. You can stop right there and say "that's advantageous because you would be able to claim whatever suits you best as the truth". I, myself, have thought that way, but the story bets hard on the message that there's nothing wrong with using magic to get you by through life to make it happier. It might change my worldview from now on. I loved how Ryukishi predicted the way fans would take on the lack of answers and turned them into goats incapable of loving. It hit me hard.
By the end, I have to aknowledge Ange as the true protagonist of the tale, because her dilemma is the factor that carries the biggest message of them all. The actual method of how Yasu/Shannon/Kanon/Beatrice actually carried the murders out remains a mistery inside the cat box until the end, though I get the general concept of how the threeway deadlock on Yasu's heart (love for George as Shannon, love for Jessica as Kanon, love for Battler as Beatrice) torn her apart and decided to bet it all on who would get out alive after she found the gold and set up the explosives. The meta-world fight between Battler and Beatrice is something I still don't understand that well because, given the fact that the real plot only starts with Ange's appearance on EP4, that would make the first three games just the means to flesh out the setting and characters. I understand the Beato-Battler games as a necessary step for Battler to gain the philosophical view able to give Ange a meaning to her life, as he was the only possible medium for that, with said fight only tangentially ending on Battler's love for the Witch that taught him how to understand the heart. Practically anything else besides this, is just the metaphor of magic as a tool for happiness.
At the end, when it's revealed that Battler had survived but ended up with cerebral damage after trying to rescue Yasu from suicide by throwing himself to the sea, the way Tohya is shown by Ange the Ushiromiya hall in the Gospel House and finding all his friends there feels like the Battler inside his mind was finally able to rest in peace and become a separate entity and so was able to reach the Golden Land.
I don't really get the timeline of 1998 because the final choice sends you to two different spots in time, and the whole part of Ange as a miko of Auaurora got me confused on the order of events, but whatever.
Anyway, this is a big ass 11/10 for meaningfulness, characters, plot, writing, creativity, MUSIC and the gorgeous voice acting and sprites of the PS3 version. I can't believe I left this abbandoned for more than 2 years after my first attempt and getting only to chapter 2.
Without love, it cannot be seen. Without conviction in your beliefs, you're bound to be dragged by the others. That's what it all comes down to. The novel explores deconstructs the very definition of "truth" in a very aristotelic fashion, that truth is just a social construction that requires someone to state it and more people to aknowledge it, independently of if it's an actual fact or not. So long as you believe something to be real just because it's the generally accepted truth, you'll never reach your own satisfying answer. You can stop right there and say "that's advantageous because you would be able to claim whatever suits you best as the truth". I, myself, have thought that way, but the story bets hard on the message that there's nothing wrong with using magic to get you by through life to make it happier. It might change my worldview from now on. I loved how Ryukishi predicted the way fans would take on the lack of answers and turned them into goats incapable of loving. It hit me hard.
By the end, I have to aknowledge Ange as the true protagonist of the tale, because her dilemma is the factor that carries the biggest message of them all. The actual method of how Yasu/Shannon/Kanon/Beatrice actually carried the murders out remains a mistery inside the cat box until the end, though I get the general concept of how the threeway deadlock on Yasu's heart (love for George as Shannon, love for Jessica as Kanon, love for Battler as Beatrice) torn her apart and decided to bet it all on who would get out alive after she found the gold and set up the explosives. The meta-world fight between Battler and Beatrice is something I still don't understand that well because, given the fact that the real plot only starts with Ange's appearance on EP4, that would make the first three games just the means to flesh out the setting and characters. I understand the Beato-Battler games as a necessary step for Battler to gain the philosophical view able to give Ange a meaning to her life, as he was the only possible medium for that, with said fight only tangentially ending on Battler's love for the Witch that taught him how to understand the heart. Practically anything else besides this, is just the metaphor of magic as a tool for happiness.
At the end, when it's revealed that Battler had survived but ended up with cerebral damage after trying to rescue Yasu from suicide by throwing himself to the sea, the way Tohya is shown by Ange the Ushiromiya hall in the Gospel House and finding all his friends there feels like the Battler inside his mind was finally able to rest in peace and become a separate entity and so was able to reach the Golden Land.
I don't really get the timeline of 1998 because the final choice sends you to two different spots in time, and the whole part of Ange as a miko of Auaurora got me confused on the order of events, but whatever.
Anyway, this is a big ass 11/10 for meaningfulness, characters, plot, writing, creativity, MUSIC and the gorgeous voice acting and sprites of the PS3 version. I can't believe I left this abbandoned for more than 2 years after my first attempt and getting only to chapter 2.
cries
Kino
kino
much better than the question arcs but suffers from a really confusing ending and 2 chapters that really just kinda happen
"magic isn't real! magic isn't real!!" i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob
A great answer.
---This applies to the overall package and not just Chiru---
It was an experience that can probably never be replicated. I don't consider it flawless. In fact, there are quite a few problems I can think of. But, what it manages to do despite those flaws - is creating a story so cathartic and so brilliant with an insanely good cast that nothing else can compare. The emotional highs, the philosophical and meta-commentary, the themes of truths, lies and their significance, the open-ended finish to so many elements which ends up leaving room for so much interpretation, the way everything comes together in the penultimate arc, and the way the finale gives a perfect, albeit controversial, ending.
Umineko made me a better, wiser, and happier person. It's an 11/10 and I will forever be grateful to it for all the things it has taught me.
It was an experience that can probably never be replicated. I don't consider it flawless. In fact, there are quite a few problems I can think of. But, what it manages to do despite those flaws - is creating a story so cathartic and so brilliant with an insanely good cast that nothing else can compare. The emotional highs, the philosophical and meta-commentary, the themes of truths, lies and their significance, the open-ended finish to so many elements which ends up leaving room for so much interpretation, the way everything comes together in the penultimate arc, and the way the finale gives a perfect, albeit controversial, ending.
Umineko made me a better, wiser, and happier person. It's an 11/10 and I will forever be grateful to it for all the things it has taught me.