imagine paying a monthly fee to work for the opportunity to pull a slot machine with the hope it lets you do the stuff you're actually paying for. would say this couldn't be me but alas, once again

i always thought i was an outlier here, in that i never enjoyed the gear grind that mmo players assume is there to "get your money's worth" (i could not believe my eyes when i saw people clamoring for the return of daily quests over weeklies,) but i'm realizing these people are broken and this design is prohibiting a different audience from forming, for reasons that anyone who's been turned off from playing one already understands

these games feature genuinely interesting blends of cooperative puzzle solving and choreography you can't get elsewhere, and it's all locked behind the most bloated tedium you could possibly imagine. it's so frustrating to not be able to share this kind of experience with others. once again asking for a saint to prove you can do it without the trappings of this garbage

Reviewed on Dec 14, 2022


4 Comments


1 year ago

I don't really get it? I just log in when i want to (sometimes i don't for days). I do a few world quest here and there and then i do mythic + with a couple of friends and 2 raid evenings week. The mythic + is an experience i can't get anywhere else, i love to improve the routes and stuff, don't care for gear. I slowly get my upgrades that way without feeling it's a slot machine, i get everything eventually while i do something i enjoy. They forced you to do a lot in most of the earlier expansions, but i don't see much tedium this time around.

1 year ago

tbc i'm approaching this from the perspective that i should be able to jump into doing raids without prerequisites. the tedium's reduced but it's still there, it's still an mmo. raid groups expect a certain level of gear and that means obtaining it via weeklies and world quests which do not give definite rewards. that's hours of doing filler content and you potentially still have to sit there waiting for someone to accept you into a group, even in normal raids! ideally ilvl wouldn't be a thing at all

also didn't really care for what i played of mythic+

1 year ago

i don't even like this in ffxiv but it's much more tolerable there, at least in that game i know i'm getting something out of the work i put in and i won't get left behind for being unlucky

1 year ago

Yeah i guess it's the mythic + thing then that gives me most of my gear. I like it a lot because i do it with a group of people i've known for many years. I wouldn't like it solo. I also play ffxiv and i enjoy it for the story and bossfights, but i like the combat in wow more (everything seems to go more fluent/faster) Demon hunter is my favorite combat class gameplay wise, and ff14 doesn't have an equivalent.