I wanted to give this a higher score by the end, but unfortunately I think the first half kind of drags. I also think this chapter tries to do a bit too much all at once, which can make it feel kind of unfocused. Some of the stuff at the end matches the high peaks of the last chapter, but overall it lacks the same consistency as its predecessor.
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Este segundo episodio ha empezado mucho más fuerte que el anterior capitulo, con un poco más de información empezamos una nueva partida de ajedrez de Battler contra Beatrice.
Al principio nos explican como Shannon gracias a Beatrice consigue tener una relación con George y a la vez por otro lado nos muestran como Jessica siente algo por Kanon pero él no es capaz de corresponderla por no ser humano y por último nos muestran los problemas de carácter de Rosa con su hija María hasta tal punto de pegarla pero que al poco se arrepiente como si una bruja la hubiera poseído.
Con esta información comienza la partida, los primeros en morir son casi todos los hijos de Kinzo, menos Rosa, y mueren de una forma bastante curiosa, digno de una peli de terror de Halloween con chuches y demás dentro de sus tripas como si fueran bolsas, lo curioso de esto es que parece una asesinato a puerta cerrada ya que la única llave que funciona en el sitio que murieron es una llave que estaba en una carta que le dio Beatrice a María.
Con esto se introduce un nuevo concepto y es que mientras ocurren estas cosas parece que Battler está observando todo y ahí empieza el duelo con Beatrice, ella para fastidiarle muchas de sus teorías introduce las frases en rojo, es decir, todo lo que diga Beatrice con letras en rojo es la verdad absoluta, pero Battler es muy inteligente y se da cuenta de que puede usarlo a su favor en otros momentos.
Dentro de todo esto parece y digo parece porque tengo mis dudas de que es real y que no en estos capítulos hasta que me asegure. Aparece una Beatrice humana y se hospeda en una habitación VIP al nivel de Kinzo.
Más tarde de eso ocurren más asesinatos y hay momentos que me hicieron temblar y hasta ponerme a llorar (Kanon I Love You)
El capitulo no termina muy bien, ya que con la parte final nos muestran como realmente Rosa si que quiere a su hija y se da cuenta de que es más valiosa ella que el propio oro y abre los ojos. Realmente a mi Rosa me caía muy mal en el anterior capitulo y ahora la empiezo a entender (aunque sin aprobar sus formas pero bueno, hay que ver la teoría de lo de la bruja a ver si es real o no)
Con todo esto decir que el capitulo es genial, no me he aburrido en casi ningún momento y sin duda cada vez va más para arriba esto
Al principio nos explican como Shannon gracias a Beatrice consigue tener una relación con George y a la vez por otro lado nos muestran como Jessica siente algo por Kanon pero él no es capaz de corresponderla por no ser humano y por último nos muestran los problemas de carácter de Rosa con su hija María hasta tal punto de pegarla pero que al poco se arrepiente como si una bruja la hubiera poseído.
Con esta información comienza la partida, los primeros en morir son casi todos los hijos de Kinzo, menos Rosa, y mueren de una forma bastante curiosa, digno de una peli de terror de Halloween con chuches y demás dentro de sus tripas como si fueran bolsas, lo curioso de esto es que parece una asesinato a puerta cerrada ya que la única llave que funciona en el sitio que murieron es una llave que estaba en una carta que le dio Beatrice a María.
Con esto se introduce un nuevo concepto y es que mientras ocurren estas cosas parece que Battler está observando todo y ahí empieza el duelo con Beatrice, ella para fastidiarle muchas de sus teorías introduce las frases en rojo, es decir, todo lo que diga Beatrice con letras en rojo es la verdad absoluta, pero Battler es muy inteligente y se da cuenta de que puede usarlo a su favor en otros momentos.
Dentro de todo esto parece y digo parece porque tengo mis dudas de que es real y que no en estos capítulos hasta que me asegure. Aparece una Beatrice humana y se hospeda en una habitación VIP al nivel de Kinzo.
Más tarde de eso ocurren más asesinatos y hay momentos que me hicieron temblar y hasta ponerme a llorar (Kanon I Love You)
El capitulo no termina muy bien, ya que con la parte final nos muestran como realmente Rosa si que quiere a su hija y se da cuenta de que es más valiosa ella que el propio oro y abre los ojos. Realmente a mi Rosa me caía muy mal en el anterior capitulo y ahora la empiezo a entender (aunque sin aprobar sus formas pero bueno, hay que ver la teoría de lo de la bruja a ver si es real o no)
Con todo esto decir que el capitulo es genial, no me he aburrido en casi ningún momento y sin duda cada vez va más para arriba esto
turn of the golden wig
amazing after ep 8 recontext
when i finished chapter 1 i wrote a long ass vent post complaining about all the problems i had with it which was a lot. im glad to say theyve almost all been remedied in chapter 2, and then some. probably the strongest 7 i can think of since i played disco elysium. despite it being pretty constantly engaging im still not totally mentally on board with the witch/magic stuff and i do still kinda feel like its set up for a payoff later down the line since so many big and important questions were left on the table by the time the credits rolled, but that seems par for the course for something with a question arc and an answer arc lol
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big fan of halloween
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why didnt umineko battler just repeat "x is the murderer" in red for everyone on the island
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damn beatrice really made battler her bitch in the end huh
cg graciosos
cool stuff, the whole red text gimmick is a really cool way to approach a mystery story. still have no idea whats going on but im very excited to find out
É significante o que aconteceu nesse capítulo, reafirmou o sentido da trama etc, mais o desenvolvimento perante a isso foi no mínimo falho.
I can't rate this game because I have so many mixed feelings about it.
VNs are hard from me, because I read a lot more than I game, so I am PICKY when it comes to writing.
The Good: the music is incredible, the women are written with complexity and depth, Beatrice is here. I had to skim the gore/violence sections because they were so viscerally written. Up there with McCarthy in terms of being able to turn my stomach.
The Mediocre: every scene is like 20-30% too long, in my opinion. Ryukishi07 has this habit of telling me 10 times what I read and learned just fine when I read it the first time. Please, trust me, Ryukishi07 I promise I understood Shannon's character development in this volume. It's better here than in Higurashi though.
The bad: the tea party scenes are so self-indulgent and are so so so long.
Will I keep reading? Maybe. Maybe.
VNs are hard from me, because I read a lot more than I game, so I am PICKY when it comes to writing.
The Good: the music is incredible, the women are written with complexity and depth, Beatrice is here. I had to skim the gore/violence sections because they were so viscerally written. Up there with McCarthy in terms of being able to turn my stomach.
The Mediocre: every scene is like 20-30% too long, in my opinion. Ryukishi07 has this habit of telling me 10 times what I read and learned just fine when I read it the first time. Please, trust me, Ryukishi07 I promise I understood Shannon's character development in this volume. It's better here than in Higurashi though.
The bad: the tea party scenes are so self-indulgent and are so so so long.
Will I keep reading? Maybe. Maybe.
Beatrice bitch, who hurt you?
Love the content for Jessica and Rosa here especially, plus Beatrice is amazing. The difficulty feels higher than Higurashi right now, but I'm not sure how future chapters will go.
what the fuck
Not quite peak fiction
This one was boring as hell I am sorry
Overall a good followup to Episode 1. Couple bits in the beginning dragged once again. I'm 99% sure I know how a lot of the mysteries happened this chapter, in fact I kind of find it obvious? I think Battler as a protagonist is probably the best version of "audience surrogate" in a really cool and "meta" way, so to speak. Usually I feel very connected with his thought process, but this chapter is when I felt the most disconnect especially towards the end. Though I suppose it says something about how good the character writing for me to be yelling "No Battler! You idiot!" behind the screen. So far this is my least favorite chapter.
Rosa mitando no fim do episodio foi otimo.
espero que el actor de voz de kinzo beba mucha agua
Episódio melhorou muita coisa do início ao fim, finalmente um aprofundamento entre vários personagens, os mistérios são Interessantes mas são meio fraquinhos
Joder habrá algún cap de este juego al que no le ponga 5 estrellas???
absolutely incredible second half, but some of the pacing issues from the first episode are still present, albeit lesser, and the descriptions of violence present within have become unnecessarily gratuitous. I still adored so much else about it, like, again, the entire second half, and the feeling of confusion and unease i felt throughout All of this thing. I also really like how much focus it gave to characters who just.. didn't get anything in episode one, like Gohda, who is now one of my favorite guys of all time!! i love gohda. goatda
Aqui já vemos um belo aprofundamento das relações de certos personagens, estes que se apresentam menos artificiais do que antes, e em geral é um sólido capítulo. Não vejo muita diferença da minha opinião do Episódio 1 com o Episódio 2.
I've got no words to describe this episode. Overall i liked it, but not so much, that's all xD.
Best Mommy arc.
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Actually insane.
There is so much to talk about this reread that i don't know where to start, but the way of how love is treated deeply here in such different ways is actually insane.
The way of how it will deceive you as of that scene of Jessica and Kanon's ghosts together with Jessica crying saying they're wrong about suspecting Kanon(making our love about those characters treat what they're saying as the truth, because nonetheless it would be too cruel, right? Kihihihihihi) or with Battler's love making him far away from the truth, because he can't suspect his beloved ones.
But, also, without love, without beliving in the witch, how can they escape? If they just belived in the witch and tried to resolve the epitath they could actually survive.
But how can they believe in a chessboard game where the enemy is actually playing to lose, right? Without love, it cannot be seen.
But, well, in the end, after such a tragedy, with trauma and the witch's belief in his mind, after driking a whole bottle of alcohol, hearing Genji's confession and probably poison's scent in Kinzo's room, he was finally be able to see.
(There is so much more to say, as Yasu's conflict, with Shanon and Kanon relations with Beatrice, or with the second twilight being probably a sex scene with some parts of the text being a support for it, as:
Beatrice:"(...) Now! Kanon, let's have a look at your blade!!(...)"
Kanon:"A thing like this...Can't even be used to trim the roses."
Jessica: "Kanon-kun,....What's..."
Kanon: "I didn't want.. To show you."
Beatrice: "So, you've taken it out. .....How does it feel to expose your subhumanity in front of the girl you care for?"
but that would be so long so yeah.)
There is so much to talk about this reread that i don't know where to start, but the way of how love is treated deeply here in such different ways is actually insane.
The way of how it will deceive you as of that scene of Jessica and Kanon's ghosts together with Jessica crying saying they're wrong about suspecting Kanon(making our love about those characters treat what they're saying as the truth, because nonetheless it would be too cruel, right? Kihihihihihi) or with Battler's love making him far away from the truth, because he can't suspect his beloved ones.
But, also, without love, without beliving in the witch, how can they escape? If they just belived in the witch and tried to resolve the epitath they could actually survive.
But how can they believe in a chessboard game where the enemy is actually playing to lose, right? Without love, it cannot be seen.
But, well, in the end, after such a tragedy, with trauma and the witch's belief in his mind, after driking a whole bottle of alcohol, hearing Genji's confession and probably poison's scent in Kinzo's room, he was finally be able to see.
(There is so much more to say, as Yasu's conflict, with Shanon and Kanon relations with Beatrice, or with the second twilight being probably a sex scene with some parts of the text being a support for it, as:
Beatrice:"(...) Now! Kanon, let's have a look at your blade!!(...)"
Kanon:"A thing like this...Can't even be used to trim the roses."
Jessica: "Kanon-kun,....What's..."
Kanon: "I didn't want.. To show you."
Beatrice: "So, you've taken it out. .....How does it feel to expose your subhumanity in front of the girl you care for?"
but that would be so long so yeah.)
Better than Ep1 but, still not the best that umineko can offer
Esse daqui já foi bem melhor do que o episode 1, mas meio que tambem foi chato o começo.
Jessie marisa and that naked battler... I kneel...