great games poor ports
Horrible collection of "ports".
MGS2 and 3 just running an emulator to play the HD collection, but somehow having anti-aliasing and texture filtering turned OFF, makes this genuinely lower graphical quality on ps5 than the HD collection on ps3.
MGS1 not supporting analogue movement, despite being openly admitted to be a ps1 emulation, and the ORIGINAL GAME SUPPORTED DUALSHOCK ANALOGUE JOYSTICKS, demonstrates that this is PURELY an issue of Konami's ps1 emulator team not bothering to include analogue movement support that FREE EMULATORS PROVIDE.
Do not buy
MGS2 and 3 just running an emulator to play the HD collection, but somehow having anti-aliasing and texture filtering turned OFF, makes this genuinely lower graphical quality on ps5 than the HD collection on ps3.
MGS1 not supporting analogue movement, despite being openly admitted to be a ps1 emulation, and the ORIGINAL GAME SUPPORTED DUALSHOCK ANALOGUE JOYSTICKS, demonstrates that this is PURELY an issue of Konami's ps1 emulator team not bothering to include analogue movement support that FREE EMULATORS PROVIDE.
Do not buy
I'm currently finished playing MGS, the first game I played of this franchise. The game plays good, maybe not the best way to play this game.
I still have to play the 2nd and 3rd game of this collection.
I still have to play the 2nd and 3rd game of this collection.
I have had an unorthodox exposure to the Metal Gear games. Played 2 when I was like 12 and just didn't get it. Played the NES game on an emulator in middle school and again didn't get it. I then skip ahead to Phantom Pain and loved it. But it belonged to a friend and only got through the first hour and a bit.
Now I'm gonna work my way all the way through. Long overdue but after beating Metal Gear Solid 1 I can say that while I think I would have liked them in highschool I'm glad to have such a fantastic series a head of me in my adult life.
The first game holds up incredibly well and despite a few things that have aged poorly it is still incredibly fun. Impressive for its time for sure. Great sense of humor. Goofy, over the top, soapy post cold war plot that is a lot of fun. Controls are dated but serviceable. Graphics are charming.
Banger.
Now I'm gonna work my way all the way through. Long overdue but after beating Metal Gear Solid 1 I can say that while I think I would have liked them in highschool I'm glad to have such a fantastic series a head of me in my adult life.
The first game holds up incredibly well and despite a few things that have aged poorly it is still incredibly fun. Impressive for its time for sure. Great sense of humor. Goofy, over the top, soapy post cold war plot that is a lot of fun. Controls are dated but serviceable. Graphics are charming.
Banger.
Una delle peggiori remastered/collection di sempre
A parte MGS1 che si gioca come lo si è sempre giocato e a parte il fatto che hanno messo la possibilità di giocare le versioni di regioni diverse (europee, americane e giapponesi), la possibilità di emulare i salvataggi, di leggere il manuale altrimenti inaccessibile e la possibilità di guardare gli script e sentire la soundtrack, gli altri 2 giochi, MGS2 e MGS3 sono un disastro totale.
Questi ultimi 2 sono inferiori in tutto e per tutto alla HD Edition sbarcata su ps3 e 360 nel 2011 e non presentano ALCUN MIGLIORAMENTO. Cosa che i modder sono riusciti a fare anche solo con un semplice fix ed un file .ini da poter modificare a piacimento. È assurdo che per una collection rilasciata al lancio a 60 euro succeda questo.
Compratelo solamente su PC dove con le mod potete veramente rendere questi giochi il meglio del meglio e comunque vi consiglio di comprarlo tramite key od in forte sconto. Evitate le versioni console. Pensate che su xbox è meglio giocare l'HD Collection del 2011 in retrocompatibilità che giocare questa nuova versione e non parliamo proprio invece della versione switch.
A parte MGS1 che si gioca come lo si è sempre giocato e a parte il fatto che hanno messo la possibilità di giocare le versioni di regioni diverse (europee, americane e giapponesi), la possibilità di emulare i salvataggi, di leggere il manuale altrimenti inaccessibile e la possibilità di guardare gli script e sentire la soundtrack, gli altri 2 giochi, MGS2 e MGS3 sono un disastro totale.
Questi ultimi 2 sono inferiori in tutto e per tutto alla HD Edition sbarcata su ps3 e 360 nel 2011 e non presentano ALCUN MIGLIORAMENTO. Cosa che i modder sono riusciti a fare anche solo con un semplice fix ed un file .ini da poter modificare a piacimento. È assurdo che per una collection rilasciata al lancio a 60 euro succeda questo.
Compratelo solamente su PC dove con le mod potete veramente rendere questi giochi il meglio del meglio e comunque vi consiglio di comprarlo tramite key od in forte sconto. Evitate le versioni console. Pensate che su xbox è meglio giocare l'HD Collection del 2011 in retrocompatibilità che giocare questa nuova versione e non parliamo proprio invece della versione switch.
Pretty lacking port but at least it has 3 of the best games ever made.
I'd rate this higher if the collection itself was done better. I can't quite say Konami phoned it in, but it definitely does feel lacking. Having the ability to play these games on modern consoles is an absolute godsend, however, and I'm just glad that newer audiences have the chance to play this. This rating isn't indicative of the games themselves, which are all easily as great as they've always been. Just beware that this collection is lacking in some respects.
vsf joguei o 3 por umas 2h derrotei o Volgin e o Shagohod e a merda travou perdi td
THOSE FUCKERS CUT THE SKATEBOARDING MINIGAME
A collection of three of the best games I have ever played. The collection loses some points for the visuals not looking as good as the 360 collection in some instances, but overall it's still a great way to experience the games if you're a new fan or a returning one. It even includes a mock save system, so Mantis can read your card.
Concedió pero no tendrá motor
The quality of this collection could have been better (like their recent Castlevania and Contra collections), but I’m genuinely glad to finally be able to play these on current gen. Hoping we get Volume 2 with the PSP games and 4 soon
good collection coulda been better but the accesibility is what matters anyways, all i ever wanted from the master collecton was to be able to comfortably play competent versions of metal gear from steam without bullshit or fiddling around with emulators and it accomplished that so it's a win in my book
plus the extras are pretty neat and useful, like the guidebooks and the script and shit it's not really stuff that you might actively pursue but you can appreciate that they included it
hopefully they'll bother to fix the resolution on PC, but it don't matter to me, maybe it matters if you're on a 4K monitor but on a 1080p one it doesn't even look that blurry, the alt tabbing is the only actually annoying thing but besides that i'm just glad i'm playing consistently smooth and responsive versions of mgs2 and 3, no emulator slowdowns, no nothing just pure unadulterated kino
they could have done a better job with mgs1 tho ngl
plus the extras are pretty neat and useful, like the guidebooks and the script and shit it's not really stuff that you might actively pursue but you can appreciate that they included it
hopefully they'll bother to fix the resolution on PC, but it don't matter to me, maybe it matters if you're on a 4K monitor but on a 1080p one it doesn't even look that blurry, the alt tabbing is the only actually annoying thing but besides that i'm just glad i'm playing consistently smooth and responsive versions of mgs2 and 3, no emulator slowdowns, no nothing just pure unadulterated kino
they could have done a better job with mgs1 tho ngl
They seriously need to fix the bugs.
I just want it to be said that the Metal Gear Solid trilogy is my favourite trilogy ever made, if I were to be reviewing this collection based off the games included it would be a very easy 10/10. Though I'm not rating the collection off of that but rather instead how it was handled.
Konami is capable of handling good collections considering the track record with things like the original MGS HD Collection + Legacy Collection, the TMNT collection, and even some of their Castlevania collections. Though not everything is good as they are also responsible for the worst ever collection with the Silent Hill HD Collection. I would say this one would be right in the middle of those I mentioned, with the exception of the PC port which is on par with the SH HD Collection. My experience on PS5 was definitely a fine one, no major bugs like save data corruption, no crashes, all minor bugs that happened to be audio issues which only occurred in MGS1/2. I like how they used the bluepoint versions of MGS2/3 but it's clear they had just copy and pasted the version here and it's a bit disappointing how MGS1 is just being emulated and not being ran natively, a big issue for the EU versions of the game as the game runs sub 25fps. I don't mind the absence of full HD support for MGS1 as I don't think it looks anything amazing but the fact that MGS2/3 aren't even 1080p is disappointing.
It's still an amazing collection of games though as MGS1-3 are some of the best games to ever come out and the collection itself has cool menus and bonus features, stuff like the original MSX games and even the NES versions and the DGNs were definitely not needed but very cool to be included.
It just gets me worried about how volume 2 will be handled and mainly for MGS4 as that game was hand crafted specifically for the PS3. They had a working version for Xbox 360 which gives me hope but not complete faith as bluepoint won't be working on that version and just in house at Konami.
Konami is capable of handling good collections considering the track record with things like the original MGS HD Collection + Legacy Collection, the TMNT collection, and even some of their Castlevania collections. Though not everything is good as they are also responsible for the worst ever collection with the Silent Hill HD Collection. I would say this one would be right in the middle of those I mentioned, with the exception of the PC port which is on par with the SH HD Collection. My experience on PS5 was definitely a fine one, no major bugs like save data corruption, no crashes, all minor bugs that happened to be audio issues which only occurred in MGS1/2. I like how they used the bluepoint versions of MGS2/3 but it's clear they had just copy and pasted the version here and it's a bit disappointing how MGS1 is just being emulated and not being ran natively, a big issue for the EU versions of the game as the game runs sub 25fps. I don't mind the absence of full HD support for MGS1 as I don't think it looks anything amazing but the fact that MGS2/3 aren't even 1080p is disappointing.
It's still an amazing collection of games though as MGS1-3 are some of the best games to ever come out and the collection itself has cool menus and bonus features, stuff like the original MSX games and even the NES versions and the DGNs were definitely not needed but very cool to be included.
It just gets me worried about how volume 2 will be handled and mainly for MGS4 as that game was hand crafted specifically for the PS3. They had a working version for Xbox 360 which gives me hope but not complete faith as bluepoint won't be working on that version and just in house at Konami.
Finished MGS1 and started MGS2.
I don't really care if it's kinda a scam, it's still the absolutely amazing games in one collection.
10/10
10/10
If you are interested in my thoughts on each game check them out here:
MGS - https://www.backloggd.com/u/Flameyboy928/review/1379711/
MGS2 - https://www.backloggd.com/u/Flameyboy928/review/1431447/
MGS3 - https://www.backloggd.com/u/Flameyboy928/review/1443379/
I never had any experience with the Metal Gear franchise before playing them through this and it served that purpose well. It provided a lot of extra content that I haven't really looked at much and it also provides the old NES game which is a nice addition.
As previously mentioned I never played these games before so I cant really comment on any performance differences as all three games ran perfectly fine for me but apparently compared to previous ports it doesn't hold up as well. Also when it comes to MGS1 moments like switching controllers during the Psycho Mantis fight and finding Meryl's frequency are much more tedious as you cant just pull the controller out and plug it into the other slot or look on the back of the game case (If you bought it digitally at least, like I did)
Obviously its a cash grab as most ports are but I think it gives enough content to not go down as a waste of money. Im wondering what they will include if they do a volume 2. Overall not a bad way to experience these sensational games in the current day
MGS - https://www.backloggd.com/u/Flameyboy928/review/1379711/
MGS2 - https://www.backloggd.com/u/Flameyboy928/review/1431447/
MGS3 - https://www.backloggd.com/u/Flameyboy928/review/1443379/
I never had any experience with the Metal Gear franchise before playing them through this and it served that purpose well. It provided a lot of extra content that I haven't really looked at much and it also provides the old NES game which is a nice addition.
As previously mentioned I never played these games before so I cant really comment on any performance differences as all three games ran perfectly fine for me but apparently compared to previous ports it doesn't hold up as well. Also when it comes to MGS1 moments like switching controllers during the Psycho Mantis fight and finding Meryl's frequency are much more tedious as you cant just pull the controller out and plug it into the other slot or look on the back of the game case (If you bought it digitally at least, like I did)
Obviously its a cash grab as most ports are but I think it gives enough content to not go down as a waste of money. Im wondering what they will include if they do a volume 2. Overall not a bad way to experience these sensational games in the current day
Le tre stelle sono per la collection, non per i giochi che in se' sono tutti e tre da 5 stelle!
amazing games, horrible port
This is not only a worse port of each of these games, it flat out doesn’t work. In MGS1 when you want to switch controller ports, the menu takes 15 minutes to load. I’m not even shitting you. This is such an insulting and greedy collection. Don’t buy it and don’t support Konami.
Impressionante ter gente defendendo essa merda. Fanboys de MGS merecem as palhaçadas que a Konami faz.
Otimização porca (alguns jogos estão mais pesados que o MGSV), texturas e áudio do MGS2 e MGS3 piorados, MGS1 sendo uma emulação ruim de PS1 sem nenhuma opção de melhoria gráfica em nenhum dos jogos (não são os mesmos jogos de anos atrás, são versões piores e com novos bugs! Só que vendido a R$300 para otários comprarem). A konami tá corrigindo algumas coisas só que numa velocidade absurda de um patch mensal (mas o preço veio inteiro...).
Numa coletânea onde se espera bons conteúdos extras dos jogos, a Konami decidiu RETIRAR conteúdo. Tanto o joguinho de andar de skate na Shell do MGS2, quanto o crossover com ape escape de MGS3 não estão presentes. O MGS1 tem um bug que o controls analógico não funciona como deveria e fica parecendo um input lag horrível, derrotar a Sniper Wolf assim deve ser péssimo.
Se você valoriza seu dinheiro, diferente de mim emocionado, emule os jogos, jogue a versão abandonware da gog do MGS2, põe o MGS1 e VR Missions no duckstation que ficam infinitas vezes melhores e de graça. Se quiser mesmo comprar, espere a Konami ter corrigido todos os problemas e tenha um pc superior ao dos requisitos recomendados porquê na época que lançou eu joguei num hardware inferior e enfrentei muitos slowdowns no MGS2 e MGS3.
No momento só zerei o MGS2 (+ todas as conquiostas e itens de New Game Plus), com mods que corrigem alguns dos problemas e um pc que atende aos requisitos, possivelmente se torna a melhor, se não uma das melhores formas de se jogar MGS2 e MGS3. Mas são as mesmas versões da HD collection (só que mais bugadas como já citei), qualquer outro jogo da coletânea já tem formas muito melhores de se jogar e sem gastar um centavo.
Acho que só vou abrir de novo essa Master Collection quando corrigirem os jogos. Se você nunca zerou MGS4, ou mesmo o Peace Walker, não espere um volume 2, porquê mesmo que tenha um, será tão mal feito quanto esse. Se você tem um bom processador, emule o MGS4, e fique longe do youtube e comunidades, porquê tem gente que só sabe ver as partes negativos desse jogo e ignoram todos os pontos bons.
Otimização porca (alguns jogos estão mais pesados que o MGSV), texturas e áudio do MGS2 e MGS3 piorados, MGS1 sendo uma emulação ruim de PS1 sem nenhuma opção de melhoria gráfica em nenhum dos jogos (não são os mesmos jogos de anos atrás, são versões piores e com novos bugs! Só que vendido a R$300 para otários comprarem). A konami tá corrigindo algumas coisas só que numa velocidade absurda de um patch mensal (mas o preço veio inteiro...).
Numa coletânea onde se espera bons conteúdos extras dos jogos, a Konami decidiu RETIRAR conteúdo. Tanto o joguinho de andar de skate na Shell do MGS2, quanto o crossover com ape escape de MGS3 não estão presentes. O MGS1 tem um bug que o controls analógico não funciona como deveria e fica parecendo um input lag horrível, derrotar a Sniper Wolf assim deve ser péssimo.
Se você valoriza seu dinheiro, diferente de mim emocionado, emule os jogos, jogue a versão abandonware da gog do MGS2, põe o MGS1 e VR Missions no duckstation que ficam infinitas vezes melhores e de graça. Se quiser mesmo comprar, espere a Konami ter corrigido todos os problemas e tenha um pc superior ao dos requisitos recomendados porquê na época que lançou eu joguei num hardware inferior e enfrentei muitos slowdowns no MGS2 e MGS3.
No momento só zerei o MGS2 (+ todas as conquiostas e itens de New Game Plus), com mods que corrigem alguns dos problemas e um pc que atende aos requisitos, possivelmente se torna a melhor, se não uma das melhores formas de se jogar MGS2 e MGS3. Mas são as mesmas versões da HD collection (só que mais bugadas como já citei), qualquer outro jogo da coletânea já tem formas muito melhores de se jogar e sem gastar um centavo.
Acho que só vou abrir de novo essa Master Collection quando corrigirem os jogos. Se você nunca zerou MGS4, ou mesmo o Peace Walker, não espere um volume 2, porquê mesmo que tenha um, será tão mal feito quanto esse. Se você tem um bom processador, emule o MGS4, e fique longe do youtube e comunidades, porquê tem gente que só sabe ver as partes negativos desse jogo e ignoram todos os pontos bons.
one of the most overated games of all time
3 Solid games. Great way to experience the beginning of one of the most iconic gaming franchise of all time. Looking forward to volume 2.
Must be new around these parts if you haven't heard of Metal Gear before. Long codex conversations about MUF and edible wildlife, cutscenes the length of an average Mexican soap opera, convoluted plot reveals and twists where everyone is a double or a triple agent and a healthy dose of "I'm 14 and this is deep" conversations that make you wince. Now that's a recipe that only a truly unhinged chef can turn into a delicious 3 course meal.
Despite the awkward controls or for the lack of a better word memey line delivery every now and then there wasn't a single hour that I spent where I didn't have a good time with these games. From the tightly packed MGS1 to the rollercoaster story of MGS2 that really hits differently in 2023 to the further refinement of gameplay, characters and story in MGS3.
Negative points for quite the pricey tag, lack of any real options in the game menu and for the archaic game controls.
If you don't have allergy to stealth or a bit of cheese in your stories I implore you to try out these games it very well might be your new favorite and with this collection it's easier than ever before.
Must be new around these parts if you haven't heard of Metal Gear before. Long codex conversations about MUF and edible wildlife, cutscenes the length of an average Mexican soap opera, convoluted plot reveals and twists where everyone is a double or a triple agent and a healthy dose of "I'm 14 and this is deep" conversations that make you wince. Now that's a recipe that only a truly unhinged chef can turn into a delicious 3 course meal.
Despite the awkward controls or for the lack of a better word memey line delivery every now and then there wasn't a single hour that I spent where I didn't have a good time with these games. From the tightly packed MGS1 to the rollercoaster story of MGS2 that really hits differently in 2023 to the further refinement of gameplay, characters and story in MGS3.
Negative points for quite the pricey tag, lack of any real options in the game menu and for the archaic game controls.
If you don't have allergy to stealth or a bit of cheese in your stories I implore you to try out these games it very well might be your new favorite and with this collection it's easier than ever before.
Portage flémard, jeux excellent. MGS 3 un très bon jeu a jouer
As a collection and port job it's pretty average. Would have been great to upscale the graphics a bit but the extras while nice and cool it's nothing to get super excited about. Its just awesome to play these on modern hardware.
Isn’t it weird how a release can feel like a genuine gift to players, but at the same time like a rushed cash grab?
Like, I’m genuinely happy that three bona fide classics are playable, in somewhat original form, on modern consoles. I.e., no emulation Kung Fu needed, or juggling with 3rd party paraphernalia to get your old consoles running on a modern TV.
“Metal Gear Solids 1-3, playable on the Switch”, they said. Well, all right then. I’m unironically here for that.
On the other hand, this has to be the most half-assed game collection in recent memory. Personally, I don’t particularly mind that the games aren’t in full HD, 60 fps and what have you. In fact, I prefer them not to be. But that’s a “me-problem”, and really beside the point. Those kinds of features are the norm in any kind of (supposed) Criterion-treatment of a beloved series, and should at least be optional.
Then there’s the confusing packaging. Having each game, and the bonus features, as separate installations sure is a choice. I’m no developer but for the life of me, I can’t figure out why they just didn’t put all the games and bonus features in one menu.
Speaking of bonus features, reading the Masterbooks (basically, an art+lore book/”making of”-.pdf) on a TV – let alone on a handheld Switch – is downright awkward. This is exactly the kind of collectible feature that players would shell out top dollars for. Hey, Konami. “Books”, remember those things? And the less said about the user experience of the online manual, the better.
So no, sadly, this isn’t the triumphant return of a formerly beloved developer/publisher to console gaming, and why would it be? Konami’s shareholders are more than happy with the company’s focus on mobile gaming, pachinko machines and Yu-Gi-Oh.
What’s worse is I have a sinking feeling that the upcoming Metal Gear Delta release won’t be a return to form, either. Honestly, MGS 3’s latest version (the PS3 HD Subsistence-version, included in the collection) has aged just fine.
But you know what game would benefit from a makeover? MGS1, that’s what. From frustrating control and camera to icky characterizations and dated script. The amount of time spent on talking about Meryl’s butt is cringe-inducing. A modern retelling of the game, from the ground up in a new engine, would be interesting to see (and not just a Twin Snakes-reskin is what I’m trying to say).
That would take considerable effort though. Judging by Metal Gear Solid Master Collection: Volume 1 Konami has none to spare.
Like, I’m genuinely happy that three bona fide classics are playable, in somewhat original form, on modern consoles. I.e., no emulation Kung Fu needed, or juggling with 3rd party paraphernalia to get your old consoles running on a modern TV.
“Metal Gear Solids 1-3, playable on the Switch”, they said. Well, all right then. I’m unironically here for that.
On the other hand, this has to be the most half-assed game collection in recent memory. Personally, I don’t particularly mind that the games aren’t in full HD, 60 fps and what have you. In fact, I prefer them not to be. But that’s a “me-problem”, and really beside the point. Those kinds of features are the norm in any kind of (supposed) Criterion-treatment of a beloved series, and should at least be optional.
Then there’s the confusing packaging. Having each game, and the bonus features, as separate installations sure is a choice. I’m no developer but for the life of me, I can’t figure out why they just didn’t put all the games and bonus features in one menu.
Speaking of bonus features, reading the Masterbooks (basically, an art+lore book/”making of”-.pdf) on a TV – let alone on a handheld Switch – is downright awkward. This is exactly the kind of collectible feature that players would shell out top dollars for. Hey, Konami. “Books”, remember those things? And the less said about the user experience of the online manual, the better.
So no, sadly, this isn’t the triumphant return of a formerly beloved developer/publisher to console gaming, and why would it be? Konami’s shareholders are more than happy with the company’s focus on mobile gaming, pachinko machines and Yu-Gi-Oh.
What’s worse is I have a sinking feeling that the upcoming Metal Gear Delta release won’t be a return to form, either. Honestly, MGS 3’s latest version (the PS3 HD Subsistence-version, included in the collection) has aged just fine.
But you know what game would benefit from a makeover? MGS1, that’s what. From frustrating control and camera to icky characterizations and dated script. The amount of time spent on talking about Meryl’s butt is cringe-inducing. A modern retelling of the game, from the ground up in a new engine, would be interesting to see (and not just a Twin Snakes-reskin is what I’m trying to say).
That would take considerable effort though. Judging by Metal Gear Solid Master Collection: Volume 1 Konami has none to spare.
a mid port of some of the greatest games of all time, mods fix all the problems but it's sad Konami didn't give these games the love they deserve. still probably worth it if you've never played any metal gear although you should prob emulate MGS1, the master collection version just doesn't have analogue control for whatever reason.
A great collection that brought some MGS games to the current gen and it’s by far the best and easiest way to experience the amazing MGS games. Get this if you’re thinking about getting into the franchise and don’t have time to troubleshoot emulators.
It's a great collection of the original Metal Gear saga that Kojima intended to release back when he worked on the series. The collection has a lot within it such as the screenplays, master books, and it contains up to 10 games so I do believe that this collection is a good deal for $59.99. Now that being said, there are maybe a couple minor issues such as no borderless window option and small audio issues. I don't care about complaints that people have about no 4K or high tech stuff like that because that's just asking for stuff that'll mess these games up. I'd def recommend getting the collection if you've never played Metal Gear before, it's one of my all-time favorite game series. Thank you for creating these games, Hideo Kojima.